The Sacred Selling Circle Experience is believing only what God says about you, being a vessel for His miracles and enjoying EVERYTHING God has for you. Let Million Dollar Decisions Be Natural.
MiMi Dabo. MBA, JD, CPA
TThe Sacred Selling Circle Experience is believing only what God says about you, being a vessel for His miracles and enjoying EVERYTHING God has for you. Let Million Dollar Decisions Be Natural.
MiMi Dabo. MBA, JD, CPA
The Sacred Selling Circle Experience
Awaken the Memory You’re a Co-Creator with God.
Serve Premium Coaching Clients Deeper.
The May 2026 Circle is SOLD OUT.
The September 2026 Sacred Selling Circle Experience is OPEN
Hello Beautiful,
A nightmare is still a nightmare even when it’s wrapped in a $25K or $500K paid in full Credit Card Payment.
If you’ve been trading your peace for profits, playing footloose with your boundaries, or trying to save clients who are not ready to lead themselves, then the Sacred Selling Circle Experience is your cue to remember who God says you are.
You’re not a life raft.
God created you to be a Lighthouse with the Holy Spirit Advantage.
So, stop acting like your Lighthouse isn’t worth charging for.
Premium pricing is a Choice. It’s not a ladder to climb.
You’ve already experienced the Invisible Shift in the April Sacred Selling Circle Series.
For the 30 days in April, we broke down all the safety cushions and threw out all the $10K offer and $15K offer cages.
Because safety and expansion are like faith and doubt. They can’t both live in the same premium coaching offer.
It’s time to stop trying to attract $25K or $50K or $100K or $500K premium coaching clients and co-create them.
Birds don’t attract flight.
God created them to fly.
God created YOU to co-create.
You don’t attract premium coaching clients until you Be the woman who co-creates them.
Awaken to the memory you’re a co-creator with God.
Thanks to the April Series, you’ve recognized that the difference between “It’s 5 PM” and “The investment is $500,000” is just who you’re choosing to BE.
The September Sacred Selling Circle Experience is not my usual private 1 to 1 experience. It is the only non-Private coaching experience I will offer in 2026, and I have zero plans for this or any group experiences after 2026.
If you prefer to work with me Privately in God-Made Women Millionaires, the investment starts at $25K for VIP Days and $180K for SuperNatural. You may apply to God-Made Women Millionaires here.
The investment for the Sacred Selling Circle Experience is $10K.
Continue to the Sacred Selling Circle Experience below.
Thank God for the gift of working with you. It’s not my cheapest investment, and I’m glad because it’s my best one I’ve ever made in my business and in my life. And it has been my greatest lesson in pricing the value of my own work. MiMi, I didn’t even know people raising their hand to work with me existed before finding you. I’ve always gone after what I wanted, worked hard and gotten it. I’ve always being a high achiever. In college, in law school and in my previous career. So, working hard and proving how good I am, was the only way I knew to do business over the last 10 years. I thought the simple way; the easy way was for lazy people and grifters. My performance and what my peers thought about me was really important to me. It always has been. Trying to find only rich clients who could afford my services without sales calls, showing up on every platform and joining various “elite” masterminds and coaching programs was my path to accelerated success. At least that’s what I thought until I found you. Getting in the right rooms with the right people was important to me. Even if it felt like I had to be someone else to fit into the way they did things. At one point I even pretended to hate sales conversations just to fit in. I won’t judge myself, but I didn’t like who I was then. Yes, I was successful and yes I was making good money, but not at this new level. Thank you MiMi for this ease and spaciousness. I’ve chased it everywhere including therapy. Thanks to all the tools from working with you, I am finally myself. I can breathe. I like myself and I don’t have to be anyone else to fit into another mastermind just to please my ego. I’ve also known intellectually that wealth is not the money in my bank account and that I’ve always been the wealthiest woman I know because of everyone and everything already in my life, but I didn’t really apply it to my life until, you. I can’t really explain logically how fast transformation happens in your world and I am just enjoying this whole journey. Because I was already making good money, I thought I was successful and I thought the plateaus were because of my sales strategies and my marketing. Since finding you, I now realize that I just wasn’t dreaming big enough. The things I had created 5 and 6-year plans for are now happening faster within weeks and months. It shouldn’t make sense, but it does. What I thought was success was just the beginning. What I thought was big is now just a needle. Thank for you for opening my eyes and my heart to my Holy Spirit Advantage. This has been my most unexpected breakthrough. If you had told me this 3 years ago, I would have laughed and invested in another sales strategy or proven system to make higher income months. I can’t believe how much time I wasted trying to work with thousands of clients just to say I’ve worked with hundreds and thousands of clients. Going deeper and serving less clients with higher value premium offers has changed my health, my work with clients, my time, my creativity, my flexibility, and my relationship with myself and my family. Just being able to breathe better, sleep better and even play better has added all the years I lost back. I feel like I’ve gained the last 10 years back in just a few months. Working with you is even better than my last 7 years talking to a therapist about my business and my family. Your ability to see all of the layers of me, and the type of questions you ask, the way you are when you ask them and your ability to see inside my heart and expose deep vulnerability is actually a bit scary sometimes. But it’s a huge relief especially in this industry. I appreciate your unfiltered rawness, your depth, your faith and your commitment to being a vessel. Your expansiveness has made the biggest difference everywhere in my business, especially with my pricing, my offers, my messaging, my sales and in my personal life with my family’s health, my relationship with my husband and children, and even with my parents. While making more money and profits is definitely great, it’s my peace of mind, healing my relationships and restoring my faith that is changing everything. The anxiety is gone. Making the money is, as you say, inevitable. I’ve always prided myself on being hardworking, smart, a leader and strong, but I never knew that surrender was the missing key. Thank you for supporting me to be clear. You don’t realize how much you lose by chasing until you be still and know God is God. It’s more than financial. Thank you for the midwife strategies, sales systems, personal systems and the inside out wisdom and clarity that will give me the great health, long life and space to actually enjoy the money I’m making and be a blessing to my family, extended family and everyone in my life. I thank God for you and I’m grateful that you’re so gifted and unrealistic and that you just show up as God’s favorite daughter. I love it! Thank you for opening my eyes to my own freedom to choose, my wisdom, gifts, brilliance and true power. Thank you for showing me what life and business can be when I shift my focus to the quality of my journey and my relationship with the Holy Spirit, and not just focus on my great outcomes and answers to my prayers. I’m a bigger blessing today and I love my work and my life. I love my freedom to co-create anything I choose from my midwife system. Finally attracting clients who raise their hand to ask me for the sale is something I am thoroughly enjoying. I’m obsessed with my life, the mysteries and my journey. I will never ever undercharge for work ever again. Never. I have no plans to chase clients again and I love the gift of actually having sales conversations with God’s favorite people. Thank you for giving me the space to just share my heart without the edits.
Alison, Leadership Business Coach for Female Lawyers
Oh, gosh, where do I start. I found you on YouTube with your daughter and I thought… she seems like a fulfilled happy mom and I had the feeling of rest in my body. Your simplicity and the way that you see the world is the opposite of what I was experiencing in my coaching business, my health and my family. I was focused on metrics and my KPIs were very different from yours. Never in my wildest dreams would I use laughter, adventure, sleep and breathing as KPIs. I wanted to triple my rates, and I wanted to make more money and make high income months. And as I got deeper into watching your videos, especially your earliest ones, I just felt better. I remember watching a video where you said we already know too much, and we just simply need to remember who we are. I remember your exact words saying when you come home to your magic, you sleep better, you laugh more, you forgive more, you like your children more, you enjoy the taste of food better, and you allow life to surprise you more. It cracked open a new pathway in my whole body and my whole life. Working with you makes my real life better. I know it’s business, but your intimacy with the Holy Spirit and your health coaching brings so much somatic support to your business coaching that I’m not just making a lot of money or impact, but I’m enjoying being alive, healthy, well and whole again. I’m enjoying my business and I’m enjoying my teenagers more. Yes, MiMi, those teenagers. And my whole family is growing in our faith. For a cpa, a lawyer and all those other degrees you don’t even count, you move through the world with a childlike wonder and simplicity which is actually the most stealth business strategy I’ve ever seen. I didn’t expect this spaciousness everywhere in my health and my life. I came for the sales, impact and money. I agree with you now. Impact starts at home with me. PS. These are the best questions any coach has ever asked me. It feels like I’m writing in my personal diary, or as you would say, love letters of gratitude to God. I really have always believed that the answers (the right answers) are out there and someone out there knows them and will give them to me. Thank you for reminding me every day that I already know too much. And thank you for never believing me when I said I didn’t know.
Cia, Life and Relationship Coach
Before finding you, I was in a group program trying to create 3K offers in a way that felt so gritty on my nervous system. I even believed that was the highest value I could offer. And then God and google led me to your YouTube videos and I realized my goals were too small. Like hundreds of other women in your world, I created my first premium coaching offer just from reading your emails and watching your YouTube videos. Before we even worked together. You make everything seem so simple and easy. Now, my ten-year goals happened in just 9 months. Scaling down intentionally has been the biggest and most profitable thing I’ve done in my business. For me one of the huge shifts is knowing that I already know the how and I don’t need to be anyone else but me. I used to think that someone else had my answer and knew what was best for me. My greatest gift has been taking giant leaps faster while valuing human connection and intimacy. Thank you for showing me how to value and put a 100% premium on real human relationships in real time. Your love letter messaging and sales for Caleb with your coffee shop marketing have changed my life and how I sell. Thank you for opening my eyes to what partnering with God looks like to imagine premium offers that I used to think were for the gurus or rich clients. I’ve cut out 99% of all the marketing and sales systems, strategies and processes and all the things I was so obsessed with chasing with low ticket offers and more sales, more clients, more of everything I don’t need. My premium clients are asking for the sale MiMi. Your creativity, frequency, and your quiet power and leadership cut through all the loud online noise in a way that challenges us to show up as leaders and focus on what matters to stop working so hard. Thank you for reminding me it’s not about focusing on high income months and that the 8-figure year or 7-figure month is NOT the end game. That alone has changed my relationship with God and what I’m really here to do. I have MORE time on my hands and in your words, ‘I have all the time in the world.’ I agree with everyone. Your experience and your diverse training have been invaluable to me. Co-creating with you feels like being in a mastermind with multiple women from different industries. But it’s just you. It doesn’t make sense. You’re so different in the best quiet way. I really like and love myself and my life now, and I don’t remember who I was when I first found you on YouTube.
Jess P. Transformational Life Coach
Two things. My mind is still reeling at the value I can co-create in ONE hour. Thank you for the revelation and insight of my ability to create $100K value or a million dollars in value on a call. I’ve always tied my results to time. I never ever saw my God-given divine ability to create that level of high value in just a single hour or in an experience. I always wondered what I’d have to do and what I’d possibly be giving even for just $25K. I came in with offers and messaging that were talking to problems that my premium clients had solved 3 years ago. And now I know what’s it’s like to have a high ticket offer that attracts $50K clients from the same audience I used to sell $3,500 offers to. For me, it’s the difference between attracting $15K or $50K clients with the same skills and same audience I was selling $3K offers to that really stood out. Now I know the depth of specificity and serving that my premium clients need for them to recognize themselves in my offer and messaging. Praise God and thank you MiMi for reminding me who I am and the difference between depth and surface-level offers and results. You’re Oxygen to premium clients. To call you humble is an understatement. This is worth at least 10 times more. Can’t wait for the magic in SuperNatural!!!!”
Laura M. Spiritual Coach
“Wow, MiMi. I agree with Chris. This VIP Day is the faith and profit pressure cooker I didn’t even know my coaching business needed. How can so much value be possible in just one single day? I didn’t know I had this inside ME. ME!!!! I finally have everything to create my own perfect profit and impact recipe for my next 4 years. This is all literally just one day. Thank you for being such a different and bright high-ticket blessing in a world of the same funnels, scripts, formulas and templates!!!”
Christy J. Spiritual Life Coaching and Health Coaching
“I thought I knew it all because I was already making so much money in my business. I didn’t realize how exhausted I was until I stopped doing all the things. What’s really landing for me MiMi is you challenging me to see what is possible when I pause looking at how I can get multiple-6 figure and 7-figure months and really start making my 5 year goals this year’s vision. For so long, I’ve been chasing the high cash months because it just sounds successful, without realizing I was undercharging. Now, I’m daring to do the things I once thought, ‘no freaking way.’ Ways of doing business I thought were for the PollyAnnas of the world. I used to think it would take me 5 to 10 years to create the kind of results that are in SuperNatural. The way high ticket sales looks going forward now is your mantra that I’ve fallen in love with… being myself, caring about people and creating amazing art that I love and can’t stop talking about that, and high value clients are so grateful and happy to invest in…. so that I embody sales and love wherever I am. I thank God that I clicked on that simple youtube video that day with you and daughter on the beach, challenging me to consider what going deeper with my work and my containers would mean for my life, my Assignment and my clients. Now, I’m growing in my faith and living a life that’s obsessed with me. I’m attracting my favorite clients and everything feels SuperNatural. Sales is as you would say, is not even selling anymore. It’s just who I am. I love the name of the offer btw. SuperNatural is prophetic. Thank you for just being you. You make everything simple and feel like a deep breath of fresh air in my life, my health, with my kids and in my business. Truly Shalom!!.”
Natalie L. Spiritual Business Coach
“Repackaging my $350/hour offer into a $15K offer and then a $25K offer has added years to my life and helped me get off all the medication I was taking. I have more quality time with my family and my Adrenals are working just fine now. I’ve had more time take care of myself and I’ve lost 15 pounds. All just from working from my overflow, knowing my Identity and trusting that I’m the woman who knows. You’re changing lives with juicy coaching offers. You’re giving women their lives and joy back. I can’t tell you how amazing my bank account and my life will be over the next 20+ years because of this work.”
Jackie K. Mindset Coach.
In the September Sacred Selling Circle Experience, we stop performing, stop bonus-stacking, and stop playing God with our premium coaching clients’ bank accounts.
We are moving from “Cold Copy” and “Crunchy Sales Scripts” to Love Letters Frequency.
What is the Sacred Selling Circle Experience? This is not a 30-day “hustle challenge.” It’s a 30-day Joyful Expansion.
We co-create in REAL TIME Coaching. No videos. No templates. No workbooks. No worksheets. No fluff. You, Us, God.
Discerning together Noon to 1 PM EST every weekday.
The Sacred Selling Circle Experience is a boutique premium high-ticket coaching experience for the woman who wants to go deeper, serve deeper and love deeper with Premium Coaching Offers.
You’re ready to serve premium coaching clients deeper and co-create with your highest value premium coaching offers.
God has given you a sound mind. You get to choose your highest value investment “price.”
If you’re ready to partner with God, Jesus and the Holy Spirit,
And you’re ready to eat Profits for Breakfast,
And you’re ready to experience premium pricing and high-ticket sales like cashmere on your nervous system,
Welcome Home to the Sacred Selling Circle.
“For years I couldn’t see my value, but I knew I was undercharging and robbing clients of the deep transformative work I really wanted to do. But I honestly didn’t know how to even go about creating a high-ticket life coaching offer. I just thought that was something for business coaches. My life, my business and my family’s relationship are all A+ just by going from $3,500 offers to $15K offers. Sales have doubled and going up. I can’t believe it can really be this simple. And thanks to you I’m a high-value, high-ticket transformational life coach.”
Hope M. Spiritual Life Coach
Inside the Sacred Selling Circle Experience Portal, we tap into your Prosperous Womb and co-create:
The Eight-Figure Pause. Mastering the silence where the $500K “Yes” actually lives.
Regulating the nervous system that holds exponential expansion.
The Alabaster Studio. Your Lighthouse Offer lives here. Stripping away the “flour” and selling the “cake.”
Let’s co-create the Lighthouse that reminds Caleb of who she is and calls her back home.
Your version of Michelangelo’s David. God’s masterpiece through you, without the fluff.
Caleb’s answer to her greatest prayer.
The mirror that reflects who God says she is.
Love Letters Messaging. Enjoy Human-to-Human Selling. Strip away the generic noise to speak soul-to-soul; this is the river that sales objections drown in because the intimacy is naked.
See Caleb so deeply that in a room full of 4,000 potential clients, she believes SHE is the only one you’re speaking to.
You’re NOT creating content. God is speaking through you directly to her heart. It’s a soul connection. No whitewashing. No filtering. No fear of rejection. No desire for validation.
You deserve to experience Caleb raising her hand to Ask you for the Sale.
The Divine Cashmere Sales System. Align exclusively only with your self-prequalified clients who are ready now to co-create with you with zero objections, zero objections and zero hesitation.
You’re here because you’ve decided that Caleb is not a credit card number.
She’s a real human who doesn’t want a complicated funnel or a stale script to call her home.
And you’ve decided to walk away from Jonah and BE the Lighthouse for Caleb.
“Before working with you, I found it challenging to create health coaching packages that really met the needs of my clients and sales was a nightmare for me. You’re a mindset ninja. Working with you is like being in a whole new world. Really. You’ve busted my stories about how much health coaches can charge with your Identity and Assignment concepts and inspired me to get the barriers out of the way that have kept me stuck over the last four years. I came into this with a $8K offer, and look at me selling $50K high-ticket offers…and thinking sales is just amazing as coaching.“
Mia H. Holistic Health Coach
The Sacred Selling Circle Experience Portal is now Open to you.
If your soul is escaping the “skinny jeans” of your current offers.
If your $5K offer or $15K offer feels like you’re trying to trap God’s best in a cage.
If your $25K offer box has become too small.
It’s time to invite yourself into the Sacred Selling Circle Experience.
It’s doesn’t matter what your history is.
It doesn’t matter what you’ve already done or haven’t done.
It doesn’t matter how much money you’ve already made or haven’t made.
No one cares.
It doesn’t matter if you want to create your first $10K offer or $500K offer.
It doesn’t matter if you want to create your first $100K month or your next $5 Million month.
“I worked with MiMi for 3 months and I am so thankful and honored to be working with such a talented coach, consultant and counselor. My life has been transformed in ways I never thought was possible. MiMi, I am super Grateful to have known you and worked with you. You are the best thing that happened to me. You gave me the kick in the butt that I needed. Thank you for wiping my tears, for being there to hear my pains and helped me explore them on a deeper level. This was exactly the self-growth I needed. Thank you for trusting me, working with me and being my friend in need. One thing I can share with you if you’re considering working with MiMi is that, Ladies if you feel you need support, MiMi and her coaching can bring you to a place you never thought was possible to be. That place would be at the top of the world. God Bless you always!”
Mahreen A. Mindset Coach and Reiki Master
“First of all, thank you for being brave enough to talk about women coaches charging for the value of their work at such a high level when everyone else is pushing low ticket and high volume. I’ve spent so many exhausting years selling $1997 coaching offers, mimicking every single tactic from almost every coaching guru out there and working so hard to fill my low-ticket group programs. I’m so grateful my life is different now. Knowing how to craft my own profitable high-ticket relationship coaching offers based on my gifts and creating messaging that easily sells my offers has been priceless. At first, I couldn’t even imagine selling anything over $45K, and now, I can’t imagine what I was waiting for all this time. Thank you for giving me permission to do my soul’s work in a way that lights me up.”
Jules M. Relationship Coach
It’s time to surrender and trust God who is already working in you for His wisdom, understanding and discernment over the 30 days in September.
The Sacred Selling Circle Experience is your sanctuary.
It’s where we co-create with God, partner with Caleb, and remember that selling is not something we do to someone. It’s love.
It’s simply God’s sacred answer to your self-led Caleb’s deepest prayers.
Are you brave enough for 90% of the market to ignore you so the 1% can find you?
“You have definitely inspired me! Thank you for pushing me to the edge… And forcing me to fly“
F. E. Business Coach 
Step out of the cage you’ve trapped yourself in.
The portal is open for more fun, more joy, more freedom, more health, and more life.
You and your Caleb deserve this.
Wake up every single day healthier, wealthier, richer and happier than you were yesterday.
Receive it.
Awaken to the memory that you’re a co-creator with God.
Already whole.
Already worthy.
Already complete.
It’s time for you to be a greater blessing for the work of God’s Kingdom, here on earth.
“Your coaching session yesterday was enlightening, informative, and transformative! Thank you for listening, mirroring, challenging and reframing my thought patterns about responsibility, money, success, and more! Within one hour, you shifted my mindset from ministry (much of which is volunteer work) to business (charging for products and services so I can do greater good in the world). You also offered a glimpse of the endless possibilities for my vision board business! Thank you for inspiring me to operate from abundance and greatness instead of scarcity and fear. One thing I can share with anyone considering working with you is that if this call is any indication, then exponential growth is the only option for anyone who hires you!”
Trecie W. Vision Board Coach
Your investment is FINAL. THERE ARE NO REFUNDS.
If you believe you’ve been enough all along and you’re 100% committed,
Meet Your High-Ticket Sales and Profit Midwife
Hi! I’m MiMi Dabo, the #1 High-Ticket Sales Coach for Women and the top Business Coach for women coaches ready for $100K–$1M offers.
I’m the founder of The Prosperous Womb, and The Profit Midwife for Spiritual Women Coaches, Christian Women Coaches and all Women Coaches who choose to partner with God.
You’re here to benefit from the 3-Trimester High-Ticket Profit Explosion Midwife CEO™ Visionary Signature System that holds sacred space for Women Coaches like you to tune in to what God says about them, let go of doubt and BE who He says they are – Real Freedom.
So that you serve DEEPER with Bespoke, High-Value Transformational High-Ticket Coaching Offers and co-create Holistic Wealth with a Simple + Profitable High-Ticket Coaching Boutique.
In The Prosperous Womb, the High-Ticket Profit Explosion Midwife CEO™ Visionary Signature System has birthed God-led Women Millionaires, as well as the Sacred Selling Circle™ and the 8-Figure Pause™.
I’m the Author of Asking for the Sale, the only Natural High-Ticket Sales book for Women Coaches and Women in Sales.
My Why? To create the life of my dreams for me and my family and impact the lives of 1,000,000 Children. Growing up, my dream was to create a support structure where no child is ever left behind; to empower 1,000,000 women to confidently provide food, shelter, clothing and the emotional + medical needs for their families.
As an entrepreneur I believe that supporting other entrepreneurs AND mobilizing others to support entrepreneurs around the world is a great step towards making the dream a reality. Women entrepreneurs in developing countries and even in the US struggle to get the funding, support and access to tools, resources and training they need to grow their business and support their families.
This is why I support Kiva to make a big part of my dreams a reality. For every woman who invests in God-Made Women Millionaires, I invest in women entrepreneurs in a developing country or the U.S., as part of my ongoing ‘Doing Good as You Shop Campaign.’
Kiva is a 501 non-profit organization that allows people to lend money via the Internet to entrepreneurs in over 80 countries, “to connect people through lending to alleviate poverty.”
Learn more about Kiva on my Kiva Lending Page. If you’re already a Kiva Member, then I invite you to join The Prosperous Womb Kiva Group. Together, we can serve with love and massively impact the lives of at least 1,000,000 women entrepreneurs and children around the world.
Cheers!
Extraordinary women like you deserve extraordinary support.
I look forward to supporting you to elevate your inner game, 10x your life and business, and create success and abundance in every area of your life.
In addition to my law, accounting and MBA degrees, I am a trained Business and Money Mindset Coach for Women Entrepreneurs (Certified Money, Marketing and Soul® Coach Training), and Big Money Business Coach for Business Owners.
I am also a trained Ontological Coach (the study of being), Leadership Coach and Facilitative Coach (goal and project design + strategic action). I am a graduate of the International Coach Federation-certified Accomplishment Coaching and Leadership Training Program.
I am a Health and Hormone Coach for Women Entrepreneurs, a Certified Life Purpose Coach, and a member of the International Coach Federation.
Thanks to my personal experience and training, I love partnering with inspiring women like you to co-create a shalom life and business.
If you’re ready for success in your life and business and pressing reset on your money mindset – then let’s do this!
Sacred Selling Circle
Your investment is FINAL. THERE ARE NO REFUNDS.
ENTER the Sacred Selling Circle
[/vc_column_text]“MiMi, you’re able to see what no one else has ever seen in me and peel off all the onion layers I’ve been hiding under. I’m a better coach and better woman all around because of this work. I came to you with a $5K offer that I was never ever sold on, and while I’m not at $100K coaching offers yet, I’m excited to sell my $25K offer. You inspire me to own my Identity and be MORE of me in my business. I’m looking forward to working with you beyond this $25K coaching offer. “
Crystal K. Mindset and Business Coach
“Repackaging my $350/hour offer into a $15K offer and then a $25K offer has added years to my life and helped me get off all the medication I was taking. I have more quality time with my family and my Adrenals are working just fine now. I’ve had more time take care of myself and I’ve lost 15 pounds. All just from working from my overflow, knowing my Identity and trusting that I’m the woman who knows. You’re changing lives with juicy coaching offers. You’re giving women their lives and joy back. I can’t tell you how amazing my bank account and my life will be over the next 20+ years because of this work.”